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June 04, 2009

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I just agree with every single word of this post. Every word.

My father was a war amp - he lost his arm on D Day on the beaches of Normandy. He hated everything about war and how it had shaped every day of the rest of his life. He despaired over the loss of life in the Viet Nam war - so much for the "war to end all wars".

I am my father's daughter. I pray daily for peace. I thank God for Obama. I pray that each one of us can be agents of God's peace.

Peace be with you...

Yes, yes, I too agree with every word, I too have "always been driven crazy by this same thing".

This is amazing -- thank you so much for posting all of it.

Ah, Beth, you would have a difficult time in this part of the country. I think these things, but keep them to myself.

What a wonderful, thoughtful post.

This was pretty much my reaction when I came back from Vietnam, though I really wanted nothing to do with chaplains even when I was there, because the Jesus I admired, the one I didn't believe in, but wanted to, would never have condoned war and killing.

Thanks Beth (and thanks Loren, for the personal testimony).

I do not believe in any of the imaginary sky gods. I don't like the concept of "sin" either. But I think a sense of sin can be valuable, and nothing seems more like sin to me than the callousness of state-sanctioned mass murder, i.e. war.

Obama still dismays me because he's an American warmonger (see Afghanistan), but I also recognize that his anti-nuclear proliferation stance, the relative humility of his rhetoric, and his willingness to work for peace make him, by a country mile, the best person to hold the office of US president in a long time. He's not a pacifist by any means, but he's the closest to it we've got. I admire him greatly, and I wish him luck.

People like to say actions speak louder than words. I don't know if that is true. The right words into the right ears can be irresistible. Actions can be much narrower than words. Words can resonate and proliferate and insinuate in all sorts of ways.

May the words we hear be about rejecting violence; may they be words against war.

Thanks for this very interesting post...war in all its forms is a product of human selfishness and greed. I haven't been in any 'war' situation but I have an understanding of what war can cause because I see it everywhere...but the question to ask isn't why war but why not peace? And I think the answer is few people profit from war (more people suffer from it) while in during 'peace', it's the other way round.

From what we have been used to from our President's, yes, Obama speech was a breakthrough. He is an excellent speaker and yes things need to be said, explained, and pointed in a direction. The question is what direction?

I have become very dismayed with Obama. He has made promise after promise and then without skipping a beat he goes the other way. The qestion I ask myself has he been telling us lies or as he enters the real political world begins to see things different?

A few quick examples, no immunity for the telcoms, but voted for it. Religion and his church is a mainstay but the right wing goes whole hog after Rev. Wright and he can't wait to leave that church and cut ties with Rev. Wright. Which is it? He now believes that he can hold a person, without trial or charges, forever. That is beyound belief. Criticised Bush for giving abassador posts to big donors and yesterday did the same thing.(Small but a flip) Promises to change rule on gays in the military and now can't seem to do it. He wanted the photos from the torture at Gitmo released but then changed his mind. And the largest and the worst is he refused to "look backward only forward" on the law breaking and crimes of Bush and his administration. My question is he telling lies to become president and how long does he expect to keep this up and keep the respect of the people who elected him? This is only the short list it really goes on and on.

These are very important issues for me this is why I supported him but his steady drumbeat of flip-flopping is losing me. In the political world of the USA this leaves me no where else to go.

Absolutely agree with this post, Beth, every word.

I like the way Obama keeps his remarks about difficult issues sharp, short, and simple. What a sophisticated speech. What a breath of fresh air.

It always feels stupid to me to praise a president (though I can't remember wanting to praise a president very often in the past). One feels as if one might be understood as praising every position he takes or as praising some benighted aspect of our country or its policy. Or he could do something foolish tomorrow.

What a president.

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