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April 23, 2011

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Beth, I've been moved and also challenged, engaged and also deeply ambivalent, while reading this series you've been posting. Some of these feelings are uncomfortable, but not less welcome for that. I don't suppose it's comfortable, either, to write with such detail and honesty. I started writing a blog post, this morning, in response to something else I'd read, and found myself responding also to you - not saying anything very startling, but I'm startled to find myself saying it at all, disaffected Anglican that I am, and stalwart in my disaffection by the age of, oh, about 10...

Oh, yes, Jean, that's when I started to be disaffected too. When the thinking mind took over. (Although I also refused to go to Sunday School, so I guess it started even before.) I have to admit though that the Cranmer's language, and the King James Bible, had a good deal to do with my love of language, even though I didn't know it at the time.

I'll go and read what you wrote, and hope you'll continue thinking and talking about these things. And yes, it's hard for me to write about too.

Beth, in assuming that you already know I appreciate your outlook on matters spiritual, I've neglected to comment on these posts. This is lazy and I apologise, I should have reiterated my appreciation, there is never enough appreciation. So here I am. Thank you for being brave - because it does take bravery to express such things in our secular society. I cannot honestly call myself a 'practicing' Catholic anymore even if I do attend services on the main holy days.
I've just posted (in a Foreword) what I feel about the life of Jesus. But what all the Christian churches have made out of his simple teachings is something I just can't swallow and even the physical spaces of most churches - their opulence, their pomp, their ornateness - goes against the grain. There's a tiny ancient chapel I visited somewhere in Rome, very simple but imbued with holiness, which I could attend often if it was nearby.

I've been moved by this post too, Beth. I need this spiritual space, but no religion, church, or community has ever made me feel safe enough to let go and openly celebrate my spirituality. (You mentioned some of the reasons why yourself.) This has only happened with single human beings when sharing deep truths and love.

Today, I do think about our hope though, our hope that we won't give up on hope itself when facing sadness, hatred, and cruelty.

Καλή Ανάσταση, Beth.

Thanks so much for these posts, Beth - very moving, and I'll read them again.

Rather wish I belonged to a church or faith group, for the involvement in a community. But I can't follow a lot of the beliefs - I'm not against them at all - I just haven't got that cast of mind. I tend to the belief not in God, but in an awareness of existence, with its various positive and negative forces. I find that Christianity and Islam put too much stress on the ultimate power of the good, whereas we have to accept destruction and the negative - there'd be no life at all without these opposing forces of construction and destruction. But of course it's best if humans, many of whom strangely have a moral sense, unlike other animals (more complex brain?), try to aim towards love and altruism. (Sometimes difficult, though!)

In spite of all this, I love religious music and high church services. Heard someone on the radio once describe himself as a "high church atheist" - I know what he meant! (though I'm not really an atheist). The Russian Easter service in a cathedral is a great aesthetic experience. But one of the most moving services I went to was in medium-sized church in Romania (Orthodox), very unwestern - women seated on one side, men on the other, and the music sung by just two men, with a microphone. After it I had to go and wander rather blindly round nearby streets till I'd recovered! Can't even analyse what I felt.

I expect you know the Couperin "Trois Lecons de Tenebres" (no accents on this system!), based on the Lamentations of Jeremiah, with the long musical phrases singing the letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Also Charpentier's "Le Reniement de Saint-Pierre" - a universal story, outside conventional religion, of a simple, good man who was caught up in something political which he couldn't understand.


Beth, I have started praying, but not in a church, just by myself, for others, for comfort, for reaching out to this benevolence I believe is out there. It makes me so uncomfortable! I have rejected it for so long. But I'm trying to learn to do it so that it feels sincere and true.

Thanks for writing this and allowing this space for contemplation.

Love this, Beth.

What you have been writing in these posts speaks so much to me personally. Thank you Beth.

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